Listening in Real -Time
                      at the Catholic Mass

“Listening can be the most active form of participation, demanding effort and attention. Truly, as the scriptures tell us, faith demands hearing, fides ex auditu. “

 (Source: Msgr. Richard Schuler http http://www.catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/ArticleText/Index/65/SubIndex/120/ArticleIndex/35)

"What does it mean for communication to be “effective”? Simply put, “effective communication” means that whatever is written or spoken must be as clear and understandable to people with disabilities as it is for people who do not have disabilities."

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap3toolkit.htm)

Examples of Effective communication:   http://www.dartmouth.edu/~accessibility/effcomm/index.html

"Accessible meeting space allows

 everyone to participate." 

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/business/accessiblemtg.htm

“Just as with wheelchair access issues, 

advocacy is paramount,” Kasper wrote. 

“Staying at home to avoid problems or 

pretending to understand when we don’t 

will not help us or future generations, and

 joining with others in a cause can be 

rewarding in itself.” (Source:  http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2011/04/17/hackensack-church-offers-captioning-for-hearing-impaired/)

"The importance for people with any 

disability to interact 

in a standard setting rather than do it 

differently is 

critical," (Source: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/real-time-captions-helping-deaf-kids-realise-potential/story-e6freuzi-1226453656874 -ROSEMARIE LENTINI)

"You get the jokes, the satire, the innuendo. You have full access. You are an equal participant. That’s CART Captioning. That’s Communication Access Realtime Translation.”  (Source:  http://www.realtimeworldwide.com/services/cart-communication-access-realtime-translation/)

    

     Captioning Shares the Message

    Can't someone just take notes for you
                  at the Catholic Mass?

CART allows a person to ‘decide’ what is important in a full homily and the message God gives them through it, compared to getting it second hand via the note taker jotting down summaries. Notes are not the full message.

If notes are inadequate it resorts to ‘I’ll tell you later’, ‘don’t worry about it’, ‘it wasn’t important’, ‘ he was so fast’,  ‘this is all I could remember.’  Someone typing on a laptop has the same issues because the speaker is speaking faster than their ability to type.

CART functions like a translator, translating the spoken to written verbatim. CART provides active and equal participation rather then doing it differently, which is much more than a person only being a spectator getting notes.

"What does it mean for communication to be “effective”? Simply put, “effective communication” means that whatever is written or spoken must be as clear and understandable to people with disabilities as it is for people who do not have disabilities."

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap3toolkit.htm)

Examples of Effective communication:   http://www.dartmouth.edu/~accessibility/effcomm/index.html

"You get the jokes, the satire, the innuendo. You have full access. You are an equal participant. That’s CART Captioning. That’s Communication Access Realtime Translation.”  (Source:  http://www.realtimeworldwide.com/services/cart-communication-access-realtime-translation/)

"Accessible meeting space allows

 everyone to participate." 

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/business/accessiblemtg.htm




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          What about getting a Script of
          the Homily at a Catholic Mass?
                                                  

Scripts are just guidelines for speech preparation intended for the speaker. 

Speakers are often off-script.  Also, scripts don’t capture nonverbal cues like laughter and humor, or body language.  Scripts are disconnecting to real time community participation. The spiritual essence is lost. Real time communication is experience sharing and connection.  If a script was sufficient and effective, why not just hand out a script to everyone?

Some priests don’t write homilies and wing it.  Sometimes priests who do write them often forget to give you a copy in advance, or don’t feel comfortable giving it to you. A prepared script is often unreliable.

"You get the jokes, the satire, the innuendo. You have full access. You are an equal participant. That’s CART Captioning. That’s Communication Access Realtime Translation.”  (Source:  http://www.realtimeworldwide.com/services/cart-communication-access-realtime-translation/)

"What does it mean for communication to be “effective”? Simply put, “effective communication” means that whatever is written or spoken must be as clear and understandable to people with disabilities as it is for people who do not have disabilities."

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap3toolkit.htm)

Examples of Effective communication:   http://www.dartmouth.edu/~accessibility/effcomm/index.html

"Accessible meeting space allows

 everyone to participate." 

(Source and SEE: http://www.ada.gov/business/accessiblemtg.htm)

                Why Not Sign Language
                for all the deaf and hard of hearing
                at a Catholic Mass?

90% of the deaf and hard of hearing speak English.

Providing access in English is respecting their own unique social, cultural and linguistic language framework. The deaf and hard of hearing are diverse.

Sign language is a foreign language that takes an average of 5 years for fluency.  Since it is not English in signs, having its own grammar and syntax, words are often lost in translation from English to ASL if the Mass, or a Catholic conference is in English.

It is inappropriate to expect a growing senior population to learn sign language if they have arthritic hands or short term memory issues.

"What does it mean for communication to be “effective”? Simply put, “effective communication” means that whatever is written or spoken must be as clear and understandable to people with disabilities as it is for people who do not have disabilities."

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap3toolkit.htm)

Examples of Effective communication:   http://www.dartmouth.edu/~accessibility/effcomm/index.html

"Accessible meeting space allows

 everyone to participate." 

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/business/accessiblemtg.htm

How do you make it Inclusive to all those who are deaf and hard of hearing?

"However, in order to serve ALL deaf, hard of hearing, 

the hearing impaired or people with hearing loss 

(whichever terms you choose), all of these accessible 

solutions need to be provided, and the Deaf and 

hearing impaired should always be placed down front 

where they can use their eyes to see to hear and the 

audio amplifiers to be picked up by their assistive 

devices. Captions should be on the wall or a screen for

 those who need to read what is being said." 

 (Source:  http://limpingchicken.com/2014/01/16/deaf-discrimination-to-deaf/)

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    The neglect of the deaf and hard of hearing

                                  in churches 

If 'effective communication' (2010 revision of the ADA law) 

is not being provided for them its called discrimination.  Are the churches required to comply?  In a short word,

No.

Here is why the churches have little pressure to comply

to remove barriers for the deaf and hard of hearing: 

"  Title III of the ADA mandates that no individuals shall be discriminated against on the basis of disability in their enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages or accommodations of any place of public accommodation. To comply with this provision, a public accommodation must remove barriers to full access of its facilities.

The equal access provisions of ADA, however,do not apply to religious organizations or places of worship operated by religious organizations."

 (Source:  http://www.ehow.com/about_6385337_ada-regulations-churches.html)

Some churches do comply if the communication accommodation is 'effective'.  Most do not.

Many churches will say they can not afford to provide 'effective communication'.  None the less,

it still creates barrier to God's word and community ( full and active participation) if it is not being provided.  People can read the double standards when they see other ministries being funded, but not for the deaf and hard of hearing or even other disabilities for that matter (roughly only 50 percent of

all diocese have a Disability Ministry for example).   Disability Ministries are helpful because it serves as 

a springboard for accomodations and access, along with advocacy, awareness training and education of such that provides full, conscious and active participation resources for all Catholics.  It serves

to celebrate diversity in people by embracing and welcoming the 'stranger' among us much like multi-cultural ministries do.  

"What does it mean for communication to be “effective”? Simply put, “effective communication” means that whatever is written or spoken must be as clear and understandable to people with disabilities as it is for people who do not have disabilities."

(Source: http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap3toolkit.htm)

Examples of Effective communication:   http://www.dartmouth.edu/~accessibility/effcomm/index.html

"The importance for people with any 

disability to interact 

in a standard setting rather than do it 

differently is 

critical," (Source: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/real-time-captions-helping-deaf-kids-realise-potential/story-e6freuzi-1226453656874 -ROSEMARIE LENTINI)

"Accessible meeting space allows

 everyone to participate." 

(Source and SEE: http://www.ada.gov/business/accessiblemtg.htm)

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deaf  - DEFINITION

See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com

adjective, deafer, deafest.

1.

partially or wholly lacking or deprived of the sense of hearing; unable to hear.

2.

refusing to listen, heed, or be persuaded; unreasonable or unyielding:

deaf to all advice.

3.

(initial capital letter) of or relating to the Deaf or their culturalcommunity:

Deaf customs and values.

Source:  http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deaf

hard of hearing - DEFINITION

• not able to hear well.
  
  

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"For this reason my answer to the above question on how to prepare a room for an interview with a deaf person would be to simply ask what, if any, accommodations will be necessary when you set up the appointment.  Let’s assume the choices might be 1. ASL or Oral interpreter. 2. Looped room 3. CART 4. Nothing. " (Source:  http://ahearingloss.com/2011/06/09/how-do-you-define-deaf/)

                             What is TypeWell Transcribing? 

Is it like CART (real time captioning) ? Well...sort of.  Its not verbatim word to word

but it does 'translate' meaning for meaning.

"Meaning-for-Meaning Transcription is very similar to Sign Language Interpreting. You may notice with interpreters that there is a delay in the information relayed because it takes the interpreter time to hear, understand,and then convey the meaning of the message into grammatically correct sign language. This is the exact process that a TypeWell Transcriber goes through as well. " (Source:  http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=48691

With CART, the reporter types everything she/he hears in verbatim.  What are the advantages of

TypeWell over CART?  Generally TypeWell is less costly then CART.  Generally CART will
capture the conversation in  its entirety.  Type Well is more like conveying the meaning of the message much like sign language Interpreting.  CART types everything exactly as is spoken.   
That's why its called verbatim.



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